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From: Ewan Edwards <Ewan.Edwards at mincom.com>
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Subject: Re: [H-GEN] Bootstrapping NetBSD
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 08:15:37 +1000
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I do not agree with Jason's assertion that kernel sources "should be" under 
CVS.  I am quite happy with the current scheme where I can download the 
source archive and drop it into /usr/src/, and simply run the appropriate 
make commands.

The main reason for my not agreeing is that I'm not a programmer and do not 
use CVS myself.  As a result I am not prepared to admit any knowledge of 
using any CVS client tools.  I do, however, admit to knowing a little about 
setting up a CVS server for a team of programmers - and thats only because I 
did it once.  

I would hate to have to setup a CVS server, create a repository, import the 
source tree, etc., etc., on my workstation, then learn the use and syntax of 
the CVS client tools just so that I could build a new kernel.  What a pain 
that would be.

For those of you who wish to be programmers and have a desire to use tools 
like CVS, the concept is probably no big deal.  For someone like me whose 
system usage is limited to Netscape, email, MineSweeper, vi & pico for 
editing boot scripts, cron, passwd, & NIS src files, the concept is scarey.




On Sun,  2 Dec 2001 19:08, you wrote:
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> Jason Henry Parker <jasonp at uq.net.au> writes:
> > Does anyone have an IDE tape drive they can loan me?  I need to
> > reinstall to some other operating system.
>
> Well, here I am.  Two days or so to nuke Linux after backnig up /,
> /home and /mnt, another day to install NetBSD proper, and another two
> days to come up to speed on its packaging system, which ROCKS MY
> WORLD.
>
> Why didn't anyone tell me this was so fugging neat[1]?
>
> jason, emacs and gnus:  check!
>        Ogg Vorbis:      check!
>        mutt, exim:      check!
>        kernel sources under CVS as they bloody well *should be*:
>                         CHECK!
>
> [1] : Technically speaking I've run NetBSD before on a pmax, but I
>       didn't look into pkgsrc or cvsup, so I missed out.


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