[H-GEN] Fwd: Fwd: Update of "Exec/Minutes/20090919" by RaymondSmith

[Raymond Smith]

Resending so it gets past the subscription filters.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Raymond Smith <raymond at storybridge.org>
Date: 2009/9/17
Subject: Re: [H-GEN] Fwd: Update of "Exec/Minutes/20090919" by RaymondSmith
To: Russell Stuart <russell-humbug at stuart.id.au>
Cc: general at lists.humbug.org.au


Russell,

2009/9/17 Russell Stuart <russell-humbug at stuart.id.au>:
> However, please treat it with the same deference you would treat say,
> the agenda of your local council meeting.  If you want items added to
> the councils agenda you must do so via one sitting members.  And so it
> is for your humble Humbug Exec.  Unlike your local council, people who
> attend the Exec meetings are always allowed to have their say.  This
> give you another way of bring up new points without putting them on the
> agenda.

Is this a recent change in policy? Matthew explicitly invited all of
us to add any items we wanted to discuss so long as we email exec and
general which I did. Furthermore, when I asked on IRC if anyone would
complain if I edited the page you said something like "the only way to
find out is to do it".

Given that members are allowed to bring up new points at meetings, it
seems to me that your planning would be aided by having a section in
your Agenda for "members issues". That way the Chairman of the meeting
has advanced notice of items that the members may wish to raise.

> Ray, I have changed the agenda to say I will raise the discussion point
> on your behalf.  Personally, I think this is something the SysAdmins,
> lead by the SysAdmin god (librarian), should sort out themselves.
> Assuming the SysAdmin list is open, anyone can join in the discussion.
> I'd rather not tie up Exec meeting with the minutiae of SysAdmining a
> server.

Russell, you have completely missed the point of my agenda item. I
want to know what the Executive expects of the System Administration
team and vice versa. This is absolutely *not* something that the
System Administration team can discuss among themselves at any level
beyond general speculation.

Cheers,

Raymond