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brad at humbug.org.au
Thu May 27 23:27:53 EDT 2004
On Fri, May 28, 2004 at 12:47:27PM +1000, Paul Gearon wrote:
> Bradley Marshall wrote:
> >On Fri, May 28, 2004 at 12:13:58PM +1000, Paul Gearon wrote:
> >On the other hand, most of the lists I'm on, which are security / sysadmin
> >related, don't use Reply-To.
> OK, I'll confess surprise.
SAGE-AU lists, Debian lists, LinuxAus list, some Mac lists,
and some LDAP lists I'm on all don't have a reply-to header.
Mailman's configuration section strongly suggests not having
a reply-to, and in fact this is the default setting.
> That said, I did notice it the other way for 2 types of lists:
> 1. Announcement lists, where people don't normally respond
> 2. AUUG lists (ie. lots of sysadmins!). The thing that struck me about
> these lists is that there seemed to be a LOT of offline discussions!
It does take some getting used to if you're used to having reply-to.
Watching who you're sending email to is a good habit to be in, I scan the
headers before I hit the send button.
> Does your email client have IMAP support
> and a bayesian spam filter?
No, thats provided by an external program, in good Unix
tradition of a program doing one task only, and doing it well.
> If not, then would you consider it broken?
I'd suggest that IMAP is a good feature for a mailer to have,
but that the bayesian filter would be better provided by an
external program, such as SpamAssassin.
> It's great that you and others have mail clients that support this feature.
> A lot of peoples' clients don't. The number of people whose clients don't
> would seem to imply that this is not a "common" feature to most mail
Its unfortunate that more MUAs don't have this feature,
especially considering that more and more mailing lists will
be setup without a reply-to header, since its mailman's
default, and there aren't many other good mailing list
> So no, not having this feature might be annoying (for use with
> these lists),
And the many, many, many other lists out there without a
reply-to header. Believe me, not having a reply-to header is
not rare at all.
> but hardly broken.
I don't see the abscene of a header broken either, especially
since there are other ways of dealing with it.
brad at humbug.org.au
 : Path of least resistance, people are more likely to leave settings on
 : Mailman has its failings too - especially for larger installations.
My current workplace's mailman listinfo page takes around 15
seconds to load, with the approximate 800 mailing lists.
 : Before I got hacking and put in some caching, that is.
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