[H-SASIG] Erasing data on excalibur

[James Iseppi]

Hi Russell,

On 07/05/2010, at 10:08 AM, Russell Stuart wrote:

>> I did not erase any of HUMBUG's pages,
>
> Apparently I haven't made this plain enough.  Short of a court order,
> the only entity that gets to decide what data will or will not keep on
> its VM is Humbug.  It doesn't matter whether you or anybody else
> considers them to be "HUMBUG's pages" or not.  You don't get to make  
> the
> decision - Humbug does.
>
> In short, once it is on excalibur, it is under Humbug's control, and
> Humbug gets to decide whether it stays or goes.  Is that clear?

The point I was attempting to make here is that the files have, and  
still are located on excalibur, and are therefor under HUMBUG's  
control. They were only moved to a different directory (/home/james/ 
LcaBackup) on the server, to prevent the issue of duplicate  
information being on two websites. The only thing that was different  
is that they were not publicly available on the wiki.

On 07/05/2010, at 10:55 AM, Russell Stuart wrote:
> I think altering acl's so people don't mistakenly update (or even see)
> the copy on Humbug would be both reasonable and prudent.  However,  
> that
> is your call, not mine.


Given the way that ACL's are setup within the wiki, there is no real  
way to limit access to pages, such that no one has access to view or  
edit those pages. This is because two groups currently trump all  
permissions on a wiki page, namely Exec and Sysadmin, of which a  
significant number of LCA organisers are a part of. I do not think  
these permissions should be changed, but that was the reasoning behind  
removing the pages from the public HUMBUG wiki.

I think this should be the end of this conversation on these lists, as  
we are now to the point of arguing semantics.

Thanks
James