[H-SASIG] Erasing data on excalibur

[Russell Stuart]

On Fri, 2010-05-07 at 01:58 +1000, James Iseppi wrote:
> Since it is obviously me that you are talking about, as I conducted  
> the migration of the Private component of the wiki to the LA VM, I  
> will respond to this.

I wasn't obvious to me who it was.  There are too many possibilities.
We discussed this at the last sasig meeting, and are in the process or
trying to address this.

(Stephen, how is that going?)

> I did not erase any of HUMBUG's pages,

Apparently I haven't made this plain enough.  Short of a court order,
the only entity that gets to decide what data will or will not keep on
its VM is Humbug.  It doesn't matter whether you or anybody else
considers them to be "HUMBUG's pages" or not.  You don't get to make the
decision - Humbug does.

In short, once it is on excalibur, it is under Humbug's control, and
Humbug gets to decide whether it stays or goes.  Is that clear?

If someone who has root access to the box does disagrees with this
please say so now, so the Exec can decide what we should do about it.

> You and all people involved (which includes all members of the exec)  
> in this component of the wiki were participants in the discussion  
> where I said that I would move the LCA Private wiki to a new website.

No, I wasn't involved any such discussion and I don't believe there was
one.  There is no record of it in the LCA committee meetings minutes,
and was no such a discussion in the mailing list.  The closest we come
to it in the minutes is "There will be an instance of Moinmoin (wiki)
running on the server soon" in ConfMeeting20100409.  Maybe more was said
at the time - I was not at that meeting.

As for the mailing list, the only relevant posts were on the night the
LCA VM came to life, when we were warned it was about to happen, and
then told it was done.  There was no discussion.  Not that there needed
to be one.  You and Stephen were just doing your LCA job.

So I don't consider Humbug's Exec or Sasig been informed of what
happened on Excalibur let alone involved as they should have been.

But enough of this.  I gather you realise with hindsight this should
have been handled differently.   That is all that matters.  We live and
learn.

The rest of sasig probably don't realise this, but you and Stephen have
been under considerable pressure to make things happen for LCA, and for
reasons largely outside of your control this hasn't been easy.  Under
such circumstances mistakes happen.  That is why we have backups.