[H-GEN] Linuxs separated from Win. 10

Daniel Moore daniel at expandmail.com
Wed Sep 16 08:50:32 EDT 2015


The best open source replacement I've found for CCleaner is http://bleachbit.sourceforge.net/



On 16 September 2015 10:44:39 pm AEST, Russell Stuart <russell-humbug at stuart.id.au> wrote:
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>On Tue, 2015-09-08 at 09:42 +0000, gyfdrdedscf at sigaint.org wrote:
>> >> Recently I installed a DVD burning software and all a sudden my
>> personal
>> >> email is shown in the following screen, which asks me to register
>my
>> account in the software's system.
>> >> Definitely I did not register it because this software works with
>or
>> without an account but it made me nut that how come my email was
>shown?
>> > Sorry, I'm lost.  To have a hope I need to know what operating
>system,
>> what DVD burning software, and what email client you are using.
>> 
>> I was using Win. 8.1; the software was Power2go CyberLink and my
>personal
>> email is with yahoo.com.au.
>> This is strange because I didn't type in my email and it just shown
>up in
>> the next step - 'registration' after the software was installed.
>
>Oh, that all.  Your email is stored in the Windows Registry.
>
>> > I googled CCleaner.  It seems to be a propriety, Windows program? 
>Both
>> those things create issues.  Since it is propriety, you are prevented
>by
>> the licence from knowing what it does.  It may well claim it is
>> > optimising your PC while it is really installing spyware to steal
>your
>> banking details.  There is no way to tell.
>> > As for Windows - it is a very good operating system (well 10 is
>anyway,
>> apart from the propriety bit) - but I don't use it so I'm no expert.
>> 
>> Could you let me know in what way can I find alternative FOSS
>software to
>> replace CCleaner?
>
>No.  It's the Windows thing - I haven't personally used it in over a
>decade.  Back when I did use it I was both wrote computer programs for
>it, and was a sysadmin.   I avoided programs like CCleaner like the
>plague - as far as I could tell their sole purpose was was to extract
>money from customers.  I certainly didn't notice any improvement after
>running them.  But maybe times have changed.
>
>> I am aware of sourceforge.net and there are thousands of recommended
>> software for most keywords searching. It would be great if I could
>narrow
>> the list to a few to choose from.
>
>If they still don't do anything useful there won't be a open source
>version.  Nobody wastes their spare time writing programs that do
>nothing.
>
>> With the around-212GB hard drive, it is very tight because I am going
>to
>> have two separete Linux platforms apart from Windows 10.
>> 
>> The hard drive is actually 256GB, not 212GB. It shows around 212GB
>because
>> the other space is full of a large sums of system backup files. You
>> mentioned about 15GB is tight then I say 256-20GB (WIN 10 system
>backup
>> files) = 236GB; 236GB -20GB (Linux)-20GB (virtual box Linux within
>the
>> fist Linux) =196GB left; If I wanted
>> to have the third Linux (as a virtual box)within Windows then 176GB
>(the
>> first Linux 20GB
>> is log-on separated from Windows when starting the computer) then
>156GB is
>> left for Windows.
>> 
>> Do you think this is a good partition plan?
>
>Sounds like it would work.  
>
>> Some websites say either iptables or comodo firewall is considerable
>for
>> Linux (maybe you will pick up one of them or both as proprietary) but
>when
>> it cvomes to anti-virus, software, like Malwarebytes or HitmanPro, is
>> presumably not open-source.
>
>Iptables isn't a firewall.  It's a mechanism the Linux kernel provides
>to construct firewalls.  Comodo is a closed source program that uses
>iptables to construct a firewall.
>
>There are free open source programs that do the same job.  Debian
>provides a list of them.  They will be available on most Debian derived
>distributions, such as Ubuntu:
>
>https://wiki.debian.org/DebianFirewall#Graphic_applications_and_frontends
>
>That said, you don't need a firewall.  They only protect you against
>bugs in network servers you run.  In all likely hood you won't be
>running any.
>
>> To prevent being hacked and put privacy-leak into consideration,
>which
>> software, including firewall, anti-virus and something else, is
>better
>> installed before start browsing the Internet and using net-banking?
>
>I personally don't use those things.  Malware is a money making
>operation, and to make money you need a lot of idiots behind keyboards,
>idiots who will run stuff they find in an email or download from the
>internet.  Bearing that in mind Linux creates two problems for malware
>producers.  Firstly the number of people who run Linux on the desktop
>is
>tiny compared the number of people who run Windows, which means there
>is
>proportionally less idiots.  Less idiots means less opportunity to make
>money, and in the Linux desktop case there few it's simply not worth
>their while to target them.  Worse, most Linux users are open source
>nuts - meaning while they often do run programs they find on the
>internet (virtualenv, gem and npm users - I'm looking at you), they
>only
>run open source.  I am not aware of any malware producer that publishes
>their code as open source.
>
>> It is time to upgrade my phone but I am a bit disappointed that the
>latest
>> Samsung phones cannot remove the battery in an easy way.
>> I found a Nokia phone (with good technology and look like an Android)
>> which allows people to remove battery easily but it is with a Win.
>> platform.
>
>The software industry has learnt since the desktop days.  Mobile Phones
>are so locked down only the government can spy on them without getting
>your agreement first, so worrying about viruses on them is about as
>productive as worrying about getting struck by lightening.  As for open
>source - only Android release _part_ of its code as open source, and
>that part is becoming less as time goes on.  Or to put it another way -
>if you like WinPhone use it, as even to a open source zealot there
>isn't
>a huge pile of difference between it and Android.
>
>> In order to learn and utilize more Android and Linux functions on a
>new
>> phone with the latest technology, which brand and which model will
>members
>> from your organization sugguest?
>> Is it a battery-removable model?
>
>A removable battery is nice, but there are other solutions that work
>almost as well:
>
>  http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/111668547142
>
>So far I have stuck with Nexus phones, mostly for reasons you won't
>care
>about.
>
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