[H-GEN] HUMBUG AGM 2009

[Anthony Towns]

On Sat, Sep 05, 2009 at 10:43:24AM +1000, James Iseppi wrote:
> The reason there are items up for discussion before the election of
> the new exec is because of the proposed agenda of one (and currently
> the only candidate) for president of the club. His agenda proposes
> sweeping changes to the way in which the executive operates (many of
> them which I think could improve the executive and how it operates).
> However because these changes are so sweeping, Matthew wanted to
> discuss them. 

AFAIK the usual way to deal with proposed changes by candidates is
to let them give a brief spiel on their ideas before they're elected,
then let interested people discuss it further after the election (and
meeting for that matter) is over. If people think it's a bad idea and
want to argue for another approach beforehand, then they need to be a
candidate too and offer an alternative spiel.

> Originally these discussions were less detailed,
> followed the elections and were listed as proposals of Russell's.
> This was changed at the request of Russell Stuart because he felt it
> would be awkward if the AGM elected him as president and then the
> meeting discussed his proposed presidential platform and decided to
> block his ability to implement it.

There's been plenty of opportunity for discussion on the list or at
earlier meetings...

If, after the spiel and election, a motion to block the newly elected
people from following their platform gets moved and somehow accepted,
the newly elected folks can always immediately resign. That all just
seems a bit unlikely to me though.

Honestly, this all sounds overly confrontational for what's not much
more than a fortnightly get together of a few dozen folks who happen to
be interested in Unix though. Can't we all just, you know, get along?

> Also they were going to take significant
> time to discuss and vote on at the meeting prior to the current
> changes. 

Any actions that shorten the AGM get my support, fwiw.

Cheers,
aj

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