[H-GEN] Room Bookings Update

[Dennis Gilmore]

On Wednesday 14 January 2009 04:53:56 am Arjen Lentz wrote:
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> Hi Dennis
Hey Arjen

> On 14/01/2009, at 3:10 PM, Dennis Gilmore wrote:
> > On Tuesday 13 January 2009 07:46:25 pm Arjen Lentz wrote:
> >> Having a box of Ubuntu CDs handy (ordered from shipit,ubuntu.com)
> >> might be good. Apart from being very kind to simple users (with
> >> liveCD
> >> and installer combined), if you stick the CD into a Windows box it
> >> also contains some of the most common OSS stuff for Windows; so it's
> >> all-in-one. Naturally, some among you will insist that Ubuntu sucks
> >> and brand Y is clearly better and must be used, however I would
> >> suggest to you that if a person is somehow enticed to use Ubuntu,
> >> that's a win for Linux. So don't be too picky.
> >
> > I can get a bunch of Fedora live cd's sent also,  just to offer
> > choice :)
> > while i'm likely biased towards Fedora, RHEL (and clones).  I would
> > prefer
> > people make an informed decision about the OS that they choose to run.
> > if  they then choose Open Solaris, Ubuntu, slackware, Debian,
> > CentOS, Fedora
> > or even windows doesn't matter.  they made there choice.
>
> a) some people don't give enough of a stuff to want to make such a
> decision
> b) the decision requires knowledge/experience these people don't have
> and you can't ram it into them. It will be gained over time, and
> probably through trying one flavour. So from my perspective, I don't
> give a stuff which flavour they start with, but as a practicality I
> think the Ubuntu CDs offer a good approach with their Windows apps,
> liveCD and full desktop install which has proven itself pretty noob
> friendly.
Some people, even given all the knowledge in the world won't change (its 
hard).  The only thing that the fedora livecds don't have that ubuntu has is 
the windows software and its probably a little harder to install proprietary 
software.  But i consider that a feature. personal preferences aside.   some 
people will choose a distro based on that is what there friends use.  there 
are lots of reasons why people choose to do what they do.


> Once they're running Linux, using it a bit, they'll get a feel for
> what it's about, what they like and dislike, and thus choose Gnome or
> KDE, and Ubuntu or Fedora or plain Debian or whatever. I feel that
> giving people that choice upfront is simply silly.
i think in the world of livecds its really easy to grab a few and try some 
different ones. we could even get some kubuntu and fedora KDE spin ones.  im 
not sure  if either of those spins is pressed into media.

> Perhaps you feel that if they first use Ubuntu they're likely to stay
> with it? I have no idea whether that might be the case or not, however
> I again don't give a stuff. Our personal preference should have no
> bearing on others, it makes no sense to push one flavour over another
> since everybody assesses these things on different parameters. The
> features I care about are not the features you care about, so even if
> we use the same flavour we may be doing so for completely different
> reasons!
honestly there will be a percentage that will make the jump to linux and the 
first distro they use will be the  only one, so be it.   Alot of FOSS is about 
choice.  have some choice available.  I'd have a guess that more people would 
choose ubuntu media over fedora media, some people will choose both.  just 
because ubuntu gets so much media coverage.  I have my issues with ubuntu as a 
distro and canonical as a company.  They have done a good job of getting the 
media's eye.

Dennis
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