[H-GEN] What can we do ?

Joe Skilton shnads at 3blokes.mine.nu
Mon Jul 28 04:30:36 EDT 2003


Hi Everyone,
                    Ok, I'm going to hold off on the <rant> for at least this message, because someone may be able to prove me wrong here, but I cannot see the sense in this(sorry if it's a little off topic):

I refer to a recent tracert of which iv removed the first few hops so I don't implicate a certain ISP here:

  8    30 ms    30 ms    20 ms  Pos4-0.chw-core2.Sydney.telstra.net [203.50.6.22
5]
  9    40 ms    30 ms    40 ms  10GigabitEthernet3-0.pad-core5.Sydney.telstra.ne
t [203.50.6.90]
 10    30 ms    20 ms    81 ms  GigabitEthernet0-0.syd-core02.Sydney.net.reach.c
om [203.50.13.250]
 11    30 ms    30 ms    30 ms  i-1-0.syd-core01.net.reach.com [202.84.143.133]

 12   210 ms   220 ms   211 ms  i-13-0.sjc-core01.net.reach.com [202.84.143.17]

 13   280 ms   280 ms   281 ms  i-11-0.chi-core01.net.reach.com [202.84.143.58]

 14   310 ms   311 ms   320 ms  i-12-0.eig-core01.net.reach.com [202.84.143.86]

 15   311 ms   320 ms   311 ms  i-10-0.nwk-core01.net.reach.com [202.84.143.90]

 16   311 ms   310 ms   320 ms  i-3-1.nwk02.net.reach.com [202.40.148.122]
 17   321 ms   310 ms   311 ms  nyiix.he.net [198.32.160.61]
 18   400 ms   381 ms   390 ms  gige-g0-0-19s.gsr12008.fmt.he.net [216.218.254.1
53]
 19   301 ms   290 ms   301 ms  216.218.226.110
 20   331 ms   330 ms   341 ms  ge2-0.1000.cor01-maew-sjc.comindico.net [203.194
.0.57]
 21   330 ms   321 ms   310 ms  pos2-2.155.cor01-alex-scn.comindico.net.au [203.
194.0.74]
 22   311 ms   320 ms   331 ms  pos4-0.155.cor01-kent-syd.comindico.net.au [203.
194.0.105]
 23   401 ms   691 ms   340 ms  pos6-0.wsr01-eagl-bne.comindico.com.au [203.194.
59.222]

Look closely at hops 9 to 23, keeping in mind that this is a trace to an AUSTRALIAN(infact, no more than 30km from where the trace was done) website hosted on comindico's network, can anyone explain to me why this traffic goes over an International Link(To HONG KONG among other destinations) and then returns over a different international link to it's country of origin?, now i'm not going to pretend i'm a routing guru, but this seems stupid to me, can anyone shed some light on why someone in their right mind would ever setup a network to do that and not just get some kind of peering arangement with comindico for me?

Meanwhile i'll just accept yet another Corporate Cockshafting, and accept my 200+ ms ping jump when my nationally directed traffic hits an international link.

Cheers,
        Joe

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