[H-GEN] LSL retaliates over freight refund request

[Timothy Hitchens]

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I can offer DVD's ISO of the FreeBSD and or Linux distro's.

Either in DVD-R or DVD+R


Timothy Hitchens (HiTCHO)

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On 05/12/2003, at 5:39 PM, Greg Black wrote:

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> On 2003-12-05, Harry Phillips wrote:
>> Greg Black wrote:
>>>
>>> As far as I can tell from their web site, they don't sell the
>>> product I'm after -- they do have a two CD set of the ISO's that
>>> are freely downloadable from the 'Net (and which I have already
>>> obtained, thanks to Humbug).  But they don't list a DVD with the
>>> whole universe on it, which is what I purchased from LSL.
>>
>> Now you have me curious, what product are you talking about?
>
> The product I purchased from LSL was FreeBSD-4.9-RELEASE on DVD.
> My purpose was to see what kind of job they did, so that I could
> decide if they were a viable alternative to the rather peculiar
> American resellers[2] I've been dealing with in the past.
>
>> Have you contacted EverythingLinux to see if they have but don't list
>> it? Have you asked them to create what you are after?
>
> It would be extremely premature to contact them at this stage.
> I have the product I ordered from LSL and don't need to buy
> another copy.
>
> When the next release of FreeBSD comes out that fits into the
> same internal mental category as 4.9-R did for me, then I will
> be in the market for a DVD with that release, together with all
> the packages that they have built for it[1].  Whether that will
> be another 4.x release or a 5.y release (where y >= 3), I cannot
> predict.
>
> Certainly, although EverythingLinux do list FreeBSD CD's, they
> are limited to the CD's that you can create from the ISO images
> that are freely available on every FreeBSD mirror in the world
> (and which are normally trivial to get from PlanetMirror at a
> Humbug meeting -- although the disk space that normally contains
> FreeBSD, and a lot of other software, on PM is out to lunch at
> the moment).
>
> The DVD images, while obviously available to FreeBSD retailers,
> seem not to be otherwise available.  At present, LSL is the only
> such retailer in Australia.  I am inclined to suggest that other
> retailers apply to the FreeBSD distributors (see the FreeBSD web
> page at http://tinyurl.com/xtxf) and perhaps that FreeBSD should
> look for a better representative in Australia.
>
> However, I wish to attempt one final approach to LSL first; but
> that will now have to wait until the new week.
>
> Cheers, Greg
>
> [1] Actually. "will be in the market" might be overstating it.
>     By then, I might have decided that the best way to go is
>     download the distribution ISO for each release of interest
>     at a Humbug meeting and to start managing the third party
>     software manually rather than using the packages.  I would
>     then make a regular financial contribution direct to the
>     FreeBSD Foundation equivalent to what I used to spend on
>     subscriptions and direct purchases of CD/DVD releases.
>
> [2] I first purchased FreeBSD-2.2.6 on CD from the then thriving
>     Walnut Creek CD-ROM people; when that went off OK, I bought
>     a subscription, which was intended to get me each new
>     release on the "stable" branch as it came out.  Over time,
>     Walnut Creek were taken over by BSDI, who were taken over by
>     Wind River, who dropped FreeBSD; the original Walnut Creek
>     people popped up again with another name as resellers.  In
>     the course of all this, credit card details were cheerfully
>     exchanged between companies without any agreement from me;
>     some releases were billed several times to a variety of
>     cards; releases that came from the "current" branch (which I
>     had been assured would never be sent) were shipped several
>     times and billed; and so on.  Although each extra charge was
>     eventually credited back to me, the waste of time and effort
>     involved in keeping on top of this just got to be too much,
>     so I cancelled my subscriptions and looked for a local
>     alternative.
>
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