[H-GEN] HUMBUG meetings and talks

Nick Kwiatkowski nickolas at au1.ibm.com
Wed Aug 20 03:31:08 EDT 2003


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It really sounds like they both should apologise to each other.

Trent has a point that if you announce a meeting to start at 6pm, it should
start at that time. It is also generally a good idea to be early to
meetings, in case things don't go to plan, and to know all the fact before
complaing too loudly.

Tony's response to him was getting particularly offensive and goes against
the nature of this happy? group. However, the meetings are arranged by a
'small' group of people in their own free time, at their on cost. If there
is something that you don't like, rather that complain, ask "How can I make
it better?"

So they are both right and both wrong ......my two cents worth.

Ciao,

Nik

Nickolas Kwiatkowski
IT Architect
AMS Solutions Enablement (ASE)
Application Management Services
IBM Global Services Australia
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Raymond Smith wrote:
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> Trent WADDINGTON said:
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>>>So, whats this whingeing that the talk began at 17.57 instead
>>>of 18.00 Three minutes? Bloody hell, where are you at, bloke.
>>

>>So what you're saying is that HUMBUG's talks are available to people
>>with nothing else to do on a saturday, and no-one else.

This is an extraordinary comment.  I wont say any more.  Its up to you
to choose what you do with your Saturdays.

> I don't think he is saying that at all. I think he is suggesting
> that your degree of complaint is out of proportion to the degree
> of the offence.

Trent, don't forget that Ben and Raymond get nothing tangible from the
work they do for HUMBUG.

I'm chiming in here as I was the initial contact, and saw an opportunity
while Tobi was visiting to our country for him to attend and give his
real life experience.

Its a credit to the vitality and flexibility of Humbug, and to that of
Ben and Raymond that they were able to put it together so quickly.

In my opinion you owe them an apology but that is a matter for yourself.

Rgds,
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