[Fwd: [H-GEN] Support to change Humbug's constitution. (fwd)]

[Brent Wesley]

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Benjamin Robert Carlyle wrote:

> Forwarded fyi.
>
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> Subject: Re: [H-GEN] Support to change Humbug's constitution. (fwd)
> Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 18:21:50 -1000 (GMT+10)
> From: Rob Unsworth <rob at unsworth.net>
> To: benc at foxboro.com.au
>
> Your message came in while I was typing a reply to Willie. You are on the
> right track. I can't post to Humbug because I changed my setup after I
> subscribed, one day I will fix it.
>
> Rob Unsworth.
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 18:03:47 -1000 (GMT+10)
> From: Rob Unsworth <rob at unsworth.net>
> To: Willie Yeo <wyeo at connect.com.au>
> Subject: Re: [H-GEN] Support to change Humbug's constitution.
>
> Willie, STOP!!  Having had some considerable experience with
> constitutions, incorporation etc. I can assure you are going to create a
> monster.
>
> The best and most effective solution is to create different types of
> membership ie, active and non-active. The active member would have full
> voting rights while the non-active member would have no voting rights.
>
> FYI quorums legally require 50% + 1 .
>
> The Credits... I have been a member of Lions International for over 16
> years with six years on District Cabinet in varying capacities which
> required me to supervise the administration of up to 18 Clubs. The bottom
> line here is that I needed to advise clubs re constitution and
> constitution under incorporation. To do that one has to understand it all
> (it's one of my better subjects).
>
> If I can be of any assistance let me know.
>
> Regards
> Rob Unsworth
>
>
>
> On Tue, 28 Nov 2000, Willie Yeo wrote:
>
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> >       Due to a little problem I had with majordomo, I am sending this again.
> >
> >       Since Humbug is getting pretty big, and getting quorums at the meeting is
> > more difficult, we require a better way for the Executive to get consent of
> > the members to run the club more effectively and efficiently.
> >
> >       I am intending to submit to the Secretary of Humbug, to call for an
> > Special General Meeting to move a motion to amend the current Humbug
> > Constitution for the following :
> >
> >  From :
> > ==========
> > General Meetings
> > 11. A quorum of one third of the Financial Membership of the Club is
> > required for a Special General Meeting.
> >
> > To :
> > ==========
> > General Meetings
> > 11. A quorum of three times the number of the Executive Committee plus one,
> > of the Financial Membership of the Club is required for a Special General
> > Meeting.
> >       e.g., if the executive committee numbers 5, you will require a quorum of
> > 5x3 = 15 + 1 which is 16 financial members.
> >
> >       Please email your support to me, and when I have the required numbers, I
> > will submit to the Secretary formally in writing once I can get enough members.
> >
> >       Thanks.
> >
> >
> >
> > ----------
> > Willie Yeo (Network Engineer)
> >
> > connect.com.au Pty. Ltd.
> > Level 30, Riverside Centre, 123 Eagle St, Brisbane, QLD 4000, Australia.
> > Phone: +61 7 3834-9945   Fax: +61 7 3834-9938
> >
> >
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It is all well in good to say at the time of joining up with HUMBUG that "Yes I will
be an active member".  I my experience will the club, this usually does not stay that
way. A general "excitement" about the club is usually displayed at the start but then
dissipates. This is because HUMBUG is a club of interest.  Usually people come and
join up to server a purpose.  Once that purpose is met, often the member stops coming
on a regular basis. (obviously this is not always the case).

>From personal experience this is not the Case with Lions clubs. What works in one
club, often does not work in another as you have to examine what the trends of
membership are.

As much as creating classes of membership might sound good, I don't think that it
would work.

I actually support the suggestion of Willie's.  It has become to hard for us to make
quorum and a change is necessary. But we have to look at the legality of it.

--
Brent Wesley
HUMBUG President
Systems Programmer
Scanning Systems (Aust.)
http://www.scanningsystems.com.au
PH: 07 3809 3333  FAX: 3809 3335                     http://www.humbug.org.au



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