[H-GEN] cable under linux

Rob Kearey r.kearey at mailbox.uq.edu.au
Wed Jan 5 19:35:03 EST 2000


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Martin Pool wrote:

> > if any other ISP tried charging you for email and news they'd go under
> > but Telstra's marketing dept seem to be taking courses at Microsoft ;)

> uqnet has the same rule these days.  Since their costs depend on
> utilization as well as the number of connections it's not completely
> unreasonable.

Prentice Internet does in fact debit mail, news and games traffic
against your download quota, due to legacy considerations of the network
architecture. Sorting "local" from "non-local" traffic and accounting
for it takes way too much overhead, as it basically has to be done at
the router on a per-subnet (and even per-address) basis. Easy enough to
design around when you're building a network from scratch, however. The
next big network redesign should take care of that.

> > you also pay for traffic d/l'ed from other cable modem users. so kiss network
> > gaming or file sharing good bye.

> How much traffic can a game generate?  Probably a lot of packets, but
> maybe not so much data.

You'd be surprised. Here's the average traffic for the past year for the
Prentice Internet games server, in bytes-per-second:

Max In: 70.5 kB/s 
Average In: 17.2 kB/s 
Current In: 20.7 kB/s 

Max Out: 95.8 kB/s 
Average Out: 23.0 kB/s 
Current Out: 28.0 kB/s 

It all adds up.

By the way, I'd deem it a personal favour if the more talented,
experienced and handsome HUMBUGgers refrained from applying for the
RedHat jobs in Brisbane, as I need the work.

>  /\\\  Mincom | Martin Pool          | martinp at mincom.com

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