.. and all who sail in her.. just a quick question - am i right in thinking that, when i mv'ed /usr/log/ppplog (created, for the sake of permanence, by /etc/syslog.conf) to ~/ppplog, i created a (soft?) link to the latter? i initially forgot to -HUP syslogd & seemed to wind up with more in ~/ppplog than i expected, is all.. 'hanx andy b.