[H-GEN] personal organiser

A Game of Gulf mbp at meesha.humbug.org.au
Fri Apr 24 09:31:11 EDT 1998


"Paul Gearon" wrote:
>However, the real problems with wince are in the OS.  For 
>starters, it's a cut-down Win95.  That should tell you 
>enough, but in case it doesn't...  Wince requires 2MB just 
>for the OS and each program takes up hundreds of KB.  They 
>are NOT efficient in their usage of space.

Let me just  preach to the  converted on this  point:  (of course, the
converted can just press 'D' if they want):

I've been  hacking on GTK  recently, and it  is  _so_ much better than
MSVC++.  _SO_ much better: AFC is an absolute mongrel, including as it
does cruft accumulated from  every revision of the Microsoft libraries
since the late 80's.   This is the  sort of crap  that gives C++ a bad
name: it admittedly ensures high salaries  for programmers, but hardly
helps achieve anything useful.  (Rant truncated.)

In any case,  a fairly simple  application in gtk++,  stripped but not
even  optimised, takes  about 9kB  of   disk when  dynamically linked.
(Mmm, RedHat should  pay attention to compiler  flags  in 5.1.)  Hello
world  in   MSVC  bloats  to hundreds   of   kB,  even  following  the
recommendations  to save space.  Talk  about  kicking dead whales down
the beach.

Aside from which,   gtk runs quite  usefully  on a recycled Sparc  and
builds interfaces which look  rather prettier than Loss95 IMHO  (check
out Electric Eyes.)

>Also, they 
>require a special version of MS Visual C++ to compile 
>programs for them, and this is _not_ free.  

Whatever  one may think  of RMS's politics, without  him `none of this
would have been  possible'.  Imagine a  world in  which compilers were
all  controlled  by  bill.    Imagine being  Borland,   raped  with  a
wrought-iron fence.

--
Martin "My thesis program runs :-)" Pool
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