[H-SASIG] Fwd: 12 Mailman moderator request(s) waiting

[James Iseppi]

Hi All,

Mailman will refuse to start if there is not a list named mailman present. I've not sufficiently investigated the reasons for this requirement, beyond understanding that it exists. The only thing I do know is that messages that bounce related to internal mailman things will get redirected to the mailman-bounces which should then be actioned by the owner of the entire mailman install (who should be listed as an owner of the mailman list). This explanation still doesn't explain why it should be an entire mailing list and not simply a single alias to deal with bounces.

Thanks
James
 
On 05/07/2010, at 9:58 AM, Greg Black wrote:

> On 2010-07-05, Russell Stuart wrote:
>> On Mon, 2010-07-05 at 08:38 +1000, Greg Black wrote:
>>> I think it's better to remove the list. That way, if there is
>>> something real sent to it, the sender will be told that it was
>>> rejected.  Silent discards seem risky to me.
>> 
>> Silently discard is effectively what happens, now.
> 
> True, but now it would be deliberate ...
> 
>> But I agree.  Making it silently discard is a kludge which is likely to
>> confuse the next poor bugger who has to administer this system.  Just
>> deleting the thing is right thing to do.  It is just that is requires a
>> bit a research to ensure it is safe.
> 
> We have this backup system, I believe.  Just do it, watch the
> effect and roll back from a backup if something catches fire.
> 
>> I just had another look at /etc/postfix/virtual/all, and now my eyes
>> hurt.  
> 
> Yeah, every time I look at Postfix I run away screaming.  It's
> such a shame that he could get away with saying it's better than
> sendmail -- the bar was way too low.
> 
> Cheers, Greg
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