[H-GEN] Systemd killing processes after logout

[David Seikel]

I've not actually tried systemd and friends, though I'll admit that
most of what I hear about it is not good.  I'm just replying to this
little bit.

On Tue, 07 Jun 2016 23:26:40 +1000 Russell Stuart
<russell-humbug at stuart.id.au> wrote:

> > On a desktop system, I dare say that the default hoop (I think I
> > just broke the analogy) should be for screen and tmux to `just
> > work'.  
> 
> I personally don't care if tmux et al don't work on a desktop system.
>  I can't recall ever using them there.

I use tmux on my (currently systemd free) desktop system all the time.
Works fine.  So I do care that it works on desktops.  I used to use
screen, but found tmux was better for me.

I use tmux for many things.  Like lots of sysadmins of unix style
systems, I run it on servers that I work on.  I generally work
remotely, so the ability to survive all manner of nastiness is a good
feature (Internet failure, or power failure at my end for instance).

I use tmux to supply scroll back and tab features for the X terminal
program I use.  Not that modern terminal proggies don't support that,
just that it's a bonus feature that works better for me than the built
in terminal features, since I'm using tmux anyway.

Finally, the main reason why I use it on the desktop, I'm actually one
of the developers of a certain Linux window manager.  Which means
sometimes I will be recompiling that.  Tmux works well to keep
all my shell sessions active between desktop recompiles.  Like for
instance, the shell session that currently has which ever part of
the window manager I happen to be working on at the time open in my
favourite editor.

Systemd killing tmux on server or desktop logouts just ain't gonna make
me a happy chappy.  Surviving that sort of thing is what things like
tmux is FOR.

-- 
A big old stinking pile of genius that no one wants
coz there are too many silver coated monkeys in the world.
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