[H-GEN] [Exec] My points for the exec meeting on the 19/9/2009.

[James Iseppi]

Hi Russell,

On 18/09/2009, at 3:27 PM, Russell Stuart wrote:

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> On Fri, 2009-09-18 at 12:33 +0800, matheist76 at westnet.com.au wrote:
>> In conclusion. I am going to put forth a motion that all changes to  
>> roles at
>> least be voluntary and that we shouldn't be forced into new  
>> positions simply
>> because you as President want them.
>
> Matt, I can't force anyone to do anything.   It would be nice if I
> could, but I can't.  That is why my proposals are motions, which I  
> will
> be putting to the Exec, and we will as a group pass them or not as we
> see fit.  I realise they are contentious.  That is why I posted  
> early to
> give everybody chance to think about them.

No, but 51% of the Exec can force the rest of the exec to do jobs that  
they didn't sign up for, which is what I think Matthew is getting at.  
The decision to change the duties of an office holder, at a minimum,  
should have the consent of the affected person. This really should  
have been decided at the AGM, and quite possibly involved amendments  
to the constitution, prior to the elections.

> Putting a motion saying that I shall not do something I can't do and  
> am
> not doing is a waste of everybody's time.  You can put if you like of
> course - I will even vote for it, but its probably best if you  
> withdraw
> it so we can save a bit of time at the meeting.  It is probably be  
> going
> to long one as it is.

Matt's proposed motion would simply require that the decision made on  
your proposed motion is a unanimous executive decision, rather than an  
executive decision (simple majority). Personally I think you should  
simply make your motion require a unanimous result to pass out of  
courtesy to all the members on the exec who's job is proposed to be  
changed, and therefore Matt's motion should be unnecessary.

James