[H-GEN] Fwd: Planet Humbug - time to retire or fix

[matheist76 at westnet.com.au]

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From: matheist76 at westnet.com.au
To: "Stephen Thorne" <stephen at thorne.id.au>
Sent: Tuesday, 8 September, 2009 4:23:27 PM GMT +10:00 Brisbane
Subject: Re: [H-GEN] Planet Humbug - time to retire or fix

> The motion was defeated at the AGM, that just means that the 
> list won't be opened because it was the will of the majority 
> of the members of the club at the time of the AGM.

True. But unless another SGM occurs then it will be about another 
year before a motion to overturn the previous motion takes place.

> That doesn't mean an independant decision to open the list won't be
> made. A defeated motion doesn't mean defeated forever, and it doesn't
> mean defeated until another poll of the club at a format meeting is
> taken.

Independent decision?? What do you mean by that Stephen? Are you saying 
that someone like say Russell can open the list even though the majority
at the AGM have voted against it and if so under what rules. 

I have an issue with that as that means that just about anything is okay. 
Even if people at the AGM have said no. There are things that I am sure 
the previous Exec Presidents would have like to have done but were 
prevented from doing so.

Matthew Franklin

----- Original Message -----
From: "Stephen Thorne" <stephen at thorne.id.au>
To: matheist76 at westnet.com.au
Cc: "general" <general at lists.humbug.org.au>
Sent: Tuesday, 8 September, 2009 4:01:53 PM GMT +10:00 Brisbane
Subject: Re: [H-GEN] Planet Humbug - time to retire or fix

On 2009-09-08, matheist76 at westnet.com.au wrote:
> Russell stated:
> > I suspect that problem will reduce considerably when the sysadmin 
> > list becomes open.
> 
> Russell the sysadmin list is currently private is it not. Then 
> changing the list to be open would be against the motion proposed
> at the AGM. This is:

I wonder what gives you that impression. The motion was defeated at the
AGM, that just means that the list won't be opened because it was the
will of the majority of the members of the club at the time of the AGM.

That doesn't mean an independant decision to open the list won't be
made. A defeated motion doesn't mean defeated forever, and it doesn't
mean defeated until another poll of the club at a format meeting is
taken.

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Stephen Thorne
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