[H-GEN] The first LCA Bid discussion: where do we have it?

[Mark Ellem]

On 1/6/09 5:53 PM, Russell Stuart wrote:
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> Hi all.  A discussion has sprung up about whether we need a new mailing
> list for the LCA bid.
>
> My personal view is we should just use Humbug's general list for this.
> The reason is fairly straight forward: using general ensures the entire
> club knows what we are doing, where we are at, and generally is kept in
> the loop.  My view might be different if general was a busy list, but it
> isn't.  Right now it can use all the traffic it can get, and I am a firm
> believer in "traffic generates more traffic".

While I agree with your principal in openness, I feel bogging down 
general with LCA discussion is not a good idea as not everybody 
subscribed would be interested in the 'noise' that will be generated.

>
> I imagine there are two counter arguments.  The first is the rest of the
> club may not be interested in the noise we generate, and may even find
> it irritating.  If you are part of the "rest of the club" it would be
> helpful if you joined in and stated your feelings on the matter one way
> of the other.

Agreed. See above.

> The second is one of confidentiality.  As you probably all know by now I
> am a huge fan of doing things in an open and transparent way, so even if
> there was an special list I'd rather it was open too.  Nonetheless there
> will be things that must be kept confidential - such as Wellington's bid
> document.  But there are other ways of dealing with that when the need
> arises, as Wellington's bid document demonstrates.

Confidentiality is important in some aspects, but that's not the reason 
I believe in separating discussion to a separate list. It's mainly due 
to what I said above.

> As I said, if you have opinions on the matter please join in - but do so
> fairly quickly.  I gather the issue is fairly urgent.

My proposal is we have a separate list for the noise, have periodic 
progress updates to general and also send help requests to general where 
we think others could help.

Remember, the reason for having a committee is to delegate organizing 
responsibility to interested parties. We did have a call for 
nominations, made public on this list, and confirmed the team list on 
the LCA wiki at the previous HUMBUG meeting. How much more open can we be?

Mark.
Vice President, HUMBUG.