[H-GEN] Room Bookings Update

Russell Stuart russell-humbug at stuart.id.au
Fri Jan 16 05:45:22 EST 2009


On Fri, 2009-01-16 at 00:31 -0500, Robert Brockway wrote:
> While the club is OSS focused it is a Unix club.  I hope no one is 
> suggesting that we would actually make a habit of helping people out with 
> MS-Windows problems, even when it concerns OSS applications.

Perhaps it was a Unix club.  The reality I think is no one 
brings machines along that don't run Linux or Windows now.  
Very occasionally someone mentions Solaris, usually in the
same sentence as ZFS, and maybe DTrace.  But if we said it
was open source only, we wouldn't loose much.  Times have
moved on.  Your talking to someone who was brought up on V6 
here, and is perhaps more used to things moving you young 
turks.

> True.  I think we should move to one traditional "fest" meeting and one 
> talk meeting per month.

If you were here we probably could.  As it is, I am not sure
that anyone who still attends Humbug on a regular basis knows
what a "fest" is.  Not me anyway.  Unless it is a paddle pop
fest.  Except we didn't call it that.

In any case, have you installed Linux lately?  It is downright
depressing.  My daughter could install Ubuntu.  I recon your 
average Windows sysadmin could install Debian and get it right 
the first time.  It is so easy now.  Whatever happened to the
kudos's you could garner from getting Slackware going?  There 
is no respect for the old ways.  It is so sad.

On Fri, 2009-01-16 at 02:47 -0500, Robert Brockway wrote: 
> I see a bit of a legal discussion evolving.  I think non-lawyers should 
> avoid trying to have legal discussions.

That's putting it mildly.  Right now we have a girl who was 
obviously uncomfortable with the porn screen saver, said so, 
and was ignored.  That simply isn't acceptable - not to me
anyway.  Surely we all have enough empathy for our fellow
humans to tell when we have put them in a difficult position,
and enough respect for them to do something about it.  It is
a simple rule: be nice.  It is not that much to ask.

On Fri, 2009-01-16 at 00:16 -0500, Robert Brockway wrote:
> Agreed.  I am happy to help people out & informally tutor at a HUMBUG 
> meeting but that is different from free tech support (although on 
> occassion it can get close).

I think we can all agree on that.  But at worst, I thought of this 
as a temporary risk.  In other words if it happened, it would die 
down within a month or so - two or three meetings.  The up side is 
that if is does happen we *will* have done magnificent job at promoting 
open source to the masses - better than all the Software Freedom 
Days we have been through so far.

That is not the idea of course.  They idea is essentially a bait 
and switch.  Make enough noise so the people who will be interested
in Humbug may pay us a visit.

Which brings us to ...

On Thu, 2009-01-15 at 00:49 -0500, Robert Brockway wrote: 
> On Thu, 15 Jan 2009, Russell Stuart wrote:
> > Put something on the CD along the lines of "Having trouble with
> > this stuff or any other open source software?  Come along to
> > Queenslands open source software club, Humbug and speak with the
> 
> Let's at least say "Unix and Open Source club" :)

No.  These words are not a declaration of what the club is.  This
is an ad.  We put whatever words we think will attract the sort of
person who would want to join Humbug.  I really don't have a clue
what they should be.  All suggestions are welcome...  Really.





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