[H-GEN] Hella Lua!
Russell Stuart
russell-humbug at stuart.id.au
Mon Mar 27 23:55:58 EST 2006
On Tue, 2006-03-28 at 14:23 +1000, Greg Black wrote:
> I'm not having a go at Russell here, but this seems like an
> invitation to make a comment:
>
> If you see your tools making a mess of your data (and if
> your data is of any consequence to you), then it's time to
> either arrange to get the tool fixed or to move to another
> tool without the breakage. From where I'm standing, any
> case of "countless corrupted backups" is a clear indicator
> that something needs to change.
> FWIW, I stopped using cpio on any platform in the late 1980s.
> It has always been a fragile tool and better alternatives have
> been available for ages. (On some platforms, of course, cpio is
> just an alternate name for the better alternatives which know to
> honour cpio options when invoked as cpio rather than as pax or
> tar.)
And I stopped using it some time ago as well. However,
none of the obvious alternatives (pax, cp, tar) work
as backup programs - ie programs that copy a line file
system to another. Pax, in particular can't handle
long file names. The other two exit with a non-zero
exit status if a file is modified while they copy it.
That is the "right" behaviour for most applications -
but not mine.
The "Halleluiah" was because after 10 years I was about
to give up and write, of all things, a file system copy
program. The thought of having to write a file copy
program under 'nix was so absurd I have tried not to do
it for years. It is actually on my "todo" list, and
just before starting I took one last look at cpio's
change log. At it happens even cpio needs some patches
for my application - but I believe I have them lying
around somewhere.
> And, even though I'm not having a go at Russell, I must say that
> it took me two tries to parse the Subject header:
Hmmm. And while I am not having a go at Greg, this is
what I sent in another email:
On Tue, 2006-03-28 at 14:04 +1000, Russell Stuart wrote:
> On Tue, 2006-03-28 at 13:55 +1000, somebody at yyy.com wrote:
> > Ras I'm impressed!
> >
> > Not so much by the cpio bug, but by the fact that you can spell
> > hellaluelia (or whatever)
> >
> > That word falls into the same category as liaise, premises and mnemonic,
> > being words that almost no one can spell. (certainly no one under 25!)
> >
> > PS. Thanks for your responses on the timezone stuff.
>
> You are dead wrong - I had, and still have no idea
> how to spell Hallelujah. I do know it translates
> to "Praise the Lord", so I typed that phrase into
> Google.
>
> I sent the same email to the Humbug list. There
> are any number of professional nit pickers on that
> list, so I went to the trouble looking it up. After
> looking it up, I naturally got distracted by all the
> nice hits google gave me and promptly forgot to
> change the hacked up attempt I had made at spelling
> it in the first place. So I managed to embarrass
> myself and waste time looking up the spelling of a
> word I'll probably never use again.
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