[H-GEN] security update mailing lists?

Troy Piggins troy at piggo.com
Thu Jul 13 04:05:01 EDT 2006


* Greg Black <gjb at gbch.net> :
> On 2006-07-13, Russell Stuart wrote:
> 
> > Just a personal point of view, but I find these lists
> > useless for an end user.  You see a whole pile of
> > vulnerabilities fly by.  Often they are in libraries,
> > and you don't know whether some application you have
> > installed uses those libraries.  And of the remainder
> > a fair chunk won't apply to you.
> 
> This is indeed a major problem with these things.
> 
> > So I end up just waiting for my distribution to release
> > a fixed version of the package.  Notice this overcomes
> > the "vulnerability in a library" problem, because the
> > packaging system automatically updates all effected
> > programs.  This of course doesn't require you to read
> > any list.  It just requires you to run "aptitude update;
> > aptitude upgrade" regularly.
> > 
> > You can take it further.  You can write a little script
> > run nightly from cron that downloads but doesn't install
> > any updated packages and emails the you the change logs.
> > You can then install or ignore them as you see fit.  By
> > doing that you have created  your own personalised
> > mailing list that only emails vulnerabilities that effect
> > your system.
> 
> There's just one thing that makes me worry about this kind of
> advice and, since today is in fact a day when a Debian server
> was compromised, this seems like a good time to mention it:  you
> need to know that the place you get your updates from has only
> got "good" updates, not compromised software.  There's really no
> way for normal users to be able to be confident about that.
> 
> What's the solution?  Probably the only guaranteed solution is
> to ensure you only use perfectly secure computers.  These are
> created by removing the power permanently.

Hehe.  I won't be doing that.
Thanks for your thoughts, though.

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Troy Piggins
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