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Raymond Smith
zzrasmit at uqconnect.net
Fri Jun 28 02:53:45 EDT 2002
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Hi Anthony,
On Fri, 28 Jun 2002, Anthony Towns wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 28, 2002 at 11:56:55AM +1000, Raymond Smith wrote:
> > Me too! Do you have a good come-back to the 'desktop support' issue?
>
> Have you had a look at the differences between Office 97 and Office
> XP (and the corresponding differences between Windows 98 and Windows
> XP)? They're pretty significant, and if you want to use Office effectively
> you really do need some training.
This issue is rather tangential to my original question which, rephrased,
was "what arguement may be made against large organisations specifying
particular applications?". I wasn't thinking about Microsoft Products at
all.
Also, it is important in this context to remember that Standard Operating
Environments (SOEs) usually specify a particular version (or very few
versions) of a particular application for each task. Witness the
reluctance of Big Business to move from Windows 95 to Windows 98 (most
didn't).
> > see that for a large company with relatively-less-skilled workers there
> > would be savings to be made by standardising applications in training and
> > help-desk costs.
>
> So I wouldn't consider this a major stumbling block: instead of paying
> to train everyone on the latest Office release, pay to get them trained
> in OpenOffice, or similar. Heck, if you're not getting bulk discounts on
> licenses you can probably use your licensing budget ($500 ea for Office
> XP OEM) for this, and consider it a 100% saving on training costs.
Large businesses definitely take this into account when planning upgrades.
I know of several large MS Office installations still at Office 97 and
only moving because they can no longer get ongoing support or new licenses
from Microsoft.
Nevertheless, I agree that major-version changes of MS Office would be a
great time for competitors to sell their product into organisations. It is
a shame that OpenOffice isn't perfect or this would be a great time to
destablise things.
> Tuesday's FinReview had a lawyer character singing OpenOffice's
> praises too.
That is a good sign because it is my observation that lawyers are more
likely than many people to try different word processors. I suspect this
is because, like programmers and their editors, lawyers make a great deal
more and more complicated use of the wordprocessor than the average office
worker.
> Of course, where you lose out is all the places that specifically
> cater to the Microsoft majority: Internet banking, the ATO, online
> movie previews... Paying (usually in US dollars...) for all the
> proprietry i386-only tools to let you emulate all that nonsense seems
> to go a fair way towards using up your licensing savings.
Yes -- this seems to be an ongoing problem. "Everything is a VAX".
"No one ever got fired for buying IBM". All these reflect a certain
protect-my-arse-by-following the flock mentality.
Cheers,
Raymond
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