[H-CHAT] Re: [H-GEN] Stalling Netscape

[Sarah Hollings]

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My bank, Suncorp, recently replied to my whinge about apparent errors on 
their new Internet banking site with "Unix is not supported, we support 
only >= MSIE5".

Their old internet banking site worked just fine under Netscape, Mozi 
struggled with it, but at least I could check my balance.

Now it relies on some javascript menus which no browser currently built 
for *nix seem to be able to render.

> It has been my experience that all browsers suck. And it isn't really much
> of a surprise all things being considered; the number of crap websites is
> without measure. I can't speak for Konq or Moz but I know that while Opera
> does a great job of vanilla HTML it does not provide decent SSL or

Have konq, moz and opera, on this machine, and yes, they're fine on html 
(so php, cgi etc as well - why can't banking sites use them???)

> Java/JavaScript support. This makes it useless for 'e-commerce' sites that
> require SSL, and typically require Java and/or Javascript.

Yup.  As above.

>> What you're *really* whinging about, Frank, is that non-IE browsers
>> don't do the whole proprietry IE Scripting/ActiveX/plugin thing. Well,
>> dur. And what do you think can be done about that?

> 
> 
> This is a big problem. But it does not take away from the problems free
> browsers have with the de facto Java, JavaScript, and SSL standards.
> 
> Also, do not be too quick to bag IE. It was the first browser to correctly
> support out-of-the-box XML and XSLT. It also has done a superior job of
> correctly following W3C standards compared to other browsers, with the
> exception of Opera.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Raymond
> 
> (Who is surprised to see himself on the same side of the conversation as
> Frank. Maybe it is jet-lag.)
> 
> 
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