[H-GEN] Re: Training newbies was Support to change Humbug's constitution.

[Russell Mathews]

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	I am pleased to see some ideas of this nature.  I think this
should be an aspect of Humbug rather than a commercial opportunity.  Try
to make it a commercial opportunity, and it will go nowhere.  It could be
run in conjunction with usual Humbug meetings; a part of the room set
aside for this purpose.  I am sure we all will gain benefit of having more
people usefully using Linux.  If more people knew this was happening at
Humbug meeting (on an organised basis), I am sure we would have much
greater attendances.  It is the general philosophy of free source code; by
our assisting the process to move at a faster rate, we too are pulled
along and there are far more oppportunities.  Just by there being more
activity, everyone gains a little spin off from it.
	It will give a greater opportunity for more people to display what
they know.  It is a well known and accepted fact that in any
lesson/teaching situation, it is the teacher who learns the most.
	I thought the purpose of Humbug and Linux was to increase the
importance/acceptance of Unix/Linux and to increase its market
penetration. There would be no better way of achieving that than by doing
this through Humbug.

Russell Mathews.

On Wed, 6 Dec 2000, MARK VENZ wrote:

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> I'd be intrested in attending seminars/programs especially from 2 on, and
> I could probably convince the treasurer (mine not Govt/soceity) to find
> the cash ($25 -$50).
> 
> Mark
> 
> On Wed, 6 Dec 2000, Frank Brand wrote:
> 
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> > Raymond Smith wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > True. I for one would like to see the education programs, etc, for
> > > newbies.
> >
> >
> > I have actually been looking at doing this on a fee for service basis. I
> > think that there is enuff interest in Linux to do it. I think that
> > groups like Humbug could do it but unless they are absolutely and
> > totally committed it will just not happen. There is always some work or
> > assignment or weekend away to intervene. People (ie customer type
> > people) want certainty and continuity so I think there is a commercial
> > opportunity there. Just not at the $3,000 plus price tag that Red Hat
> > want to put on it. Maybe 25 to 50 people a session at $25 to $50 per
> > head. Say a few hours session on installing and running Linux with a
> > light meal or something. It really needs some organisation committed to
> > bringing it together and being responsible for co-ordination. These are
> > all top of the head figures and no real mathematics, logic or marketing
> > has gone into it at all. Just a thought. I could see a series:-
> >
> > 1. Beginners...installing, running, the simple dos-> unix conversion
> > stuff. Maybe participants get the appropriate CD and install it on their
> > computer and get shown a few things.
> >
> > 2. Configuring.
> >
> > 3. Networking etc.
> >
> > 4. Specialties -for example...databases, various packages...Sun Office
> > etc....programming maybe...Apache...PHP etc etc. This could grow
> > indefinitely depending on demand.
> >
> 
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