[H-GEN] Re: Unix vs NT [short, and to the point]

[Clinton Roy]

(Note reply-to: being general at humbug.org.au vs Clinton Roy <s344025 at student.uq.edu.au>)

sigh, i really didn't want to get into this
(my current computer, cloisters, is down atm, apologies if
this post is dorky in some way, pine is not my normal mua, long live gnus)

On Thu, 5 Aug 1999, Doug Young wrote:

> (Note reply-to: being general at humbug.org.au vs "Doug Young" <dougy at gargoyle.apana.org.au>)
> 
> > I don't know about the others on
> > this list but I've been working with various unices since 1990
> 
> Thats the point exactly ..... what  about the thousands of people trying to
> get somewhere with *nix who haven't had nine years experience???
> 
> Whether or not the faithful are prepared to accept the fact or not .....
> thanks to the arch enemy of all things *nix, a bunch of regular people can
> now have computers they can use without the pre-requisite of three degrees,
hrm
i haven't got three degrees, or even one. i've only been mucking with
linux for two years as well. once you get a few basic concepts through
your head, it really is quite simple. everything is a file. that means
everything. all the config is in basic simple text format. even the
mountains of good documentation are in basic text (/usr/doc/HOWTO is a
good place to plop a new user into).

i'm a lucky person, i made the transition from dos to linux with very
little windows in between, i didn't forget how to do stuff.

> and it can hardly be contested that there are one or three more Microsof t /
> AppleMac operating systems out there than there are *nix ones. If a few of
> these people are, for one reason or other, desirous of looking at
> alternatives to the dreaded Microsoft ...... why do the "experts" feel its
> essential to make the transition for these newbies as difficult as humanly
> possible ?? Not everyone has the interest, need, or desire to become a
> maestro in *nix ...... some of us just want to know enough to get the job
> done, at least in the immediate future.
ok
how are we making this hard?

we've pointed you to the docs, we've given examples, we've put up with
your cluelessness, we've been rather nice as far as i can see.

I really don't think that setting up a decent network configuration
(#include aj's post) should be doable by a windows user making the
transition, there are policy decisions to make that they just wouldn't
have thought about before.

unix gets used in lots of places for lots of different things, it's more
general, guis aren't good for this kind of thing, you'd come to the point
where your menus are fifteen deep and ten wide. HOWTOs tell you how to do
specific things with your system. read them.

(and yes, i did postpone this post by ten minutes)
breath...breath...breath

-------------------------------------------------------------
They are not a group of kernel-hackers, 
but instead a group of professional systems administrators...

              -- Bruce Kiefer, October 20th 1998, speaking to
                 lwn on introducing Linux to his workplace
Clinton Roy
http://student.uq.edu.au/~s344025/


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